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ADVISING INFORMATION FOR FALL 2008
Advising for Fall 2008 registration begins March 24, 2008. Advisers will have student
files in their office beginning Monday, March 24th.
ATTENTION ALL ADVISERS:
All PDF’s are in your advisee files. Attached to each PDF is a page giving information about Career
Services’ website for employment opportunities. Encourage your advisees to register on that
website (it is free). There are many job opportunities including summer internships, part-time and
permanent employment.
I have provided each of you with a few 2008-10 check sheets and flow charts for your respective
curriculum advisees. Students can elect to graduate under any catalog that is in effect while they
are in school unless they have been absent for three consecutive semesters (including summer).
When a student is absent for three consecutive semesters, the student is required to adopt the
catalog that is in effect when the student returns as the earliest catalog they can use for
graduation. If a student elects to graduate under the 2008-10 catalog, the student must meet all
the requirements of that catalog. A student cannot pick and choose some rules from one catalog
and other rules fromanother catalog. I will outline the major changes in the 2008-10 catalog below.
ATTENTION CET ADVISERS:
Each of your advisees will have internship information in their file.
Please be sure your advisee gets this information.
ATTENTION STUDENTS AND ADVISERS:
Internships: Remember! Students cannot complete an internship (CE 476 or CET 476) for credit
thelast semester they are in school. Students are required to return to the classroom at least one
semester following the internship. Beginning Summer 2008 CET Freshmen and Sophomores will
be eligible to take a one-credit hour internship. CET Juniors and Seniors are only eligible for a
two-credit hour internship. CET majors are allowed two internships at a total of 4 credit hours
maximum toward their degree under professional electives.
CE majors are eligible for a 2-credit hour internship and must have completed 64 semester credit
hours or more prior to the internship experience. CE majors are limited to one internship toward
their degree which would apply the 2 credits toward the required 12 credits
of professional
electives.Internship applications are available in the black rack outside of the CE Office
(205 Cobleigh). CET majors have an application packet in their student folder. To obtain an
internship for credit students must complete an internship application. Students should then
access the mycatcareer.com career services website to search for internships or they may set
up their own internship. If a student findsa job on their own that may qualify as an internship
position, they should contact Penny Knoll(994-6139) to determine if it is appropriate.
PAPERWORK FOR STUDENT-SECURED INTERNSHIPS MUST BE COMPLETED BY APRIL 15TH.
Available core courses: A quick source of available 2.0 core courses for a given semester can
be accessed via myinfo on the MSU homepage. Click on myinfo, then go to Core Courses,
choose the semester you want and then you have the option of looking at a particular list of core
courses such as the fine arts courses available for that particular semester or the social science
courses available that particular semester, etc. I have also attached a list of 2.0 courses available
for summer 2008 and fall 2008 to this email. Remember the only CS (Contemporary Science)
course that can be usedby CE, CE/BREN or CET majors is Ander’s CE 220 course offered in the
summer. This coursecan be used as the 5th core course.
Students will need to see their adviser to pick up their PDF which contains the alternate pin number
needed to register for classes for Spring Semester 2008. Adviser/advisee lists are posted on the
bulletin board located outside the CE Office, 205 Cobleigh, on bright gold colored paper. A list of
advisers’ room numbers is also posted.
Different advisers have different ways of coordinating meeting times with students. Either stop by
your adviser’s office to see if an appointment schedule is posted or email your adviser to find out
the best way to set up an appointment for advising. Email addresses for advisers can be located
atthe following website: http://www.montana.edu/msuinfo/dx/bzn/fs/
Online registration begins on Monday, March 31st. The Registration Handbook will be
available in Montana Hall outside of the Registrar’s Office beginning Friday, October 12th or it can
be accessed via the web under Myinfo. Individual student registration dates and times can be
found in the Registration Handbook or online under Myinfo. The course schedules (days & times
of courses) can be found online at the following website: www.montana.edu/
Then select Myinfo and arrow down to select Schedule of Classes. The Registration Handbook
is a great resource for many web links providing information needed for registration.
ADVISERS AND STUDENTS:
STUDENTS EXPECTING TO GRADUATE SPRING 2009 should be completing the graduation
application with advisers during this registration session. TWO COPIES OF THE COMPLETED
GRADUATION APPLICATIONS (front and back completed and signed by the adviser)
ALONG WITH THE CURRICULUM CHECK SHEET SIGNED BY THE ADVISER are due to Renee
by 5:00 PM, FRIDAY, April 18th!! Blank forms are located in the black rack outside of the
CE Office, 205 Cobleigh.
NOTE: CE 220 – CIVIL ENGINEERING & CONSTRUCTION – FROM ANCIENT TO MODERN will be
taught Summer 2008, 1st 6 weeks Session by Anders Larsson. The course can be used as the
additional 5th core course for CE, CE/BREN or CET majors. The course will be offered as follows:
MTW 12:30-14:40 pm
CE/BREN/CET Advisors: Please announce the following FE information to
juniors/seniors as you see them for advising.
ATTENTION STUDENTS PLANNING TO TAKE THE FE
(FUNDAMENTALS OF ENGINEERING) EXAM
CE/BREN/CET Students:
Typically, we use CE 457 – Senior Design I as a signup opportunity for the Fundamentals in
Engineering (FE) Exam. The deadline occurs either during Christmas break for the April exam, or
during the summer break for the October exam. Thus, it works well to use CE 457 for this purpose.
However, as you may be aware, you are allowed to take the FE exam two semesters prior to
graduation. Since the signup deadline for those “early-birds” is prior to the enrollment/start of
CE 457, we would like to extend the signup opportunity to you as well.
If you are enrolling in CE 457 for fall 2008 and wish to take the FE exam in October 2008
(as compared to in April 2009) your last semester), please plan on attending one of two briefing
sessions on the application process.
Session I: Thursday April 10 at 12:15 pm, Room 429 Cobleigh Hall
Session II: Tuesday April 22 at 1:10 pm, Room 429 Cobleigh Hall
The session will last about 30 minutes, and I will be discussing calculator rules, study aids, etc. as
well. I will be collecting the completed applications by the end of April 25 and turn them in to the
Dean’s Office shortly thereafter. If you have any questions prior to any of these sessions, please
contact me (Anders Larsson) at 994-7187, andersl@ce.montana.edu, Room 208 Cobleigh Hall.
CET – this announcement does not affect most of you, but we usually have 2-3 CET students
take the exam each semester. Your attendance at one of these sessions really helps facilitate your
signup as well. If you are interested in taking the FE exam this coming fall, you will likely be
graduating with your CET degree in December 2008. Note however that you are allowed to take
the exam this fall with a May 2009 graduation date.
CE AND CE/BREN ADVISERS & SENIORS
Some professional elective courses may conflict with CE 457 or CE 458 (Senior Design Capstone
Courses) the last two hours of the 3-hour course. If this occurs, students may be able to schedule
the course with the conflict. Anders Larsson has indicated if the conflict is with one of the last two
hours of the course (NOT the FIRST HOUR), he could work around the conflict. Students wanting to
register with this conflict should first notify Anders Larsson via email (andersl@ce.montana.edu) to
make sure he is OK with the conflict, then register for all the courses except the senior design
course. Then, the student should go to the Registrar’s Office and indicate that they have worked
out the conflict with the instructor and ask the Registrar’s Office to over ride the conflict and register
the student for the senior design course.
2008-10 CATALOG CHANGES
New Engineering Course
ENGR 310, Introduction to Engineering Design
3-credit course taught by Dr. Sobeck, M&IE Faculty - Prerequisite: Junior Standing (60 cr.)
MWF 3:10-4:00 p.m. for Fall Semester 2008. The course is scheduled to be offered fall and spring
semesters.
Course Description:
Today’s employers are increasingly looking for engineering graduates who demonstrate strong
potential to perform well on multidisciplinary teams. The primary purpose of the course is to help
engineering students acquire that ability while furthering their design skills. The course will cover
important design topics such as design process, creative design, project management, teamwork,
and technical leadership while highlighting the skills needed to work in a multidisciplinary
environment. Students will complete a design project as a major component of the course.
CE, CE/BREN or CET majors may take this course and use it either as a professional elective
course or in the place of the fifth core course if you are under the 2006-08 or earlier catalog.
The 2008-10 catalog will be in effect Fall 2008 and under that catalog
ENGR 310 will be a required
course for CE, CE/BREN and CET majors.
Note: Students can elect to graduate under any catalog that is in effect while they are in school
unless they have been absent for three consecutive semesters (including summer). When a student
is absent for three consecutive semesters, the student is required to adopt the catalog that is in
effect when the student returns as the earliest catalog they can use for graduation.
CHANGES:
CE and CE/BREN Curriculum:
ENGR 310 – Introduction to Engineering Design will be required.
The 5th Core course will not be required.
An additional Natural Science course (1 course) will be required from the following list:
BIOL 102 – Molecular & Cellular Biology
ESCI 111 – Physical Geology
GEOG 211 – Geographic Information Science & Cartography
LRES 201 (Fall Only Course) – Soil Resource
MB 101 – Microbiology in Today’s World
One of the following courses will be required:
CHBE 213 – Material Science
EE 250 – Circuits, Devices & Meters
ME 320 – Thermodynamics I
ME 324 (Spring Only Course) – Engineering Thermodynamics
One of the following courses will be required (two will be recommended) from the following list of
Business, Public Policy, and Public Administration (BPPPA) core courses:
ECON 101IS – Economic Way of Thinking
MGMT 231IS – Knowledge Creation and Inquiry in Business
MGMT 245D – Cultural Dimensions of International Business
MKTG 242D – Introduction to Global Markets
POLS 206IS – The Government of the United States
POLS 214IS – Principles of Political Science
POLS 241D – Introduction to International Relations
Three courses will be listed to choose from to satisfy university seminar (US) core:
CLS 101US – University Seminar (Note: only freshmen (<30 credits) can take CLS 101, if a
sophomore wishes to take this course they must register for CLS 201US.)
COM 110US – Public Communications
US 101US – First Year Seminar
Three course will be listed to choose from to satisfy the second writing course required in the
curriculum:
BUS 201 – Managerial Communications
ENGL 221 – College Writing II
ENGL 223 – Technical Writing
CET Curriculum:
ENGR 310 will be required
The 5th Core course will not be required.
Three courses will be listed to choose from to satisfy university seminar (US) core:
CLS 101US – University Seminar (Note: only freshmen (<30 credits) can take CLS 101,
if a sophomore (> or equal to 30 credits) wishes to take this course they must
register for CLS 201US.)
COM 110US – Public Communications
US 101US – First Year Seminar
Three courses will be listed to choose from to satisfy the second writing course required in the
curriculum:
BUS 201 – Managerial Communications
ENGL 221 – College Writing II
ENGL 223 – Technical Writing
NEW 2008-10 CATALOG FLOW CHARTS AND CHECK SHEETS FOR EACH CURRICULUM WILL BE
AVAILABLE IN THE BLACK RACK OUTSIDE THE CE OFFICE, 205 COBLEIGH!
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