Montana State University

Advising Information

ADVISING FOR SPRING 2015 BEGINS Monday, October 20, 2014.

Quick Reference Points for Students

REMINDER: November 18th is the last day to withdraw from Fall '14 classes with a "W" grade.
Degree Works is found under Myinfo in your Secure Area under Student Services.

    • Your advisors name is shown on the Degree Works worksheet. 
    • Meeting with your advisor is REQUIRED; registration PINS will not be issued without departmental advising.
    • Degree Works will allow you to track your progress through the curriculum to completion of your degree requirements.

Online registration* begins October 27, 2014  per the Registration Time Table which can be accessed online under Myinfo on the MSU homepage.  *Registration dates are based on class standing and total number of earned (completed) credits as outlined in the Registration Time Table

 

FOUR STEPS TO YOUR ADVISING

1.

Meet with your Advisor (use on-line scheduler or email for an appointment)

2.

Prepare your plan for 2015 Spring course in Degree Works before the meeting

3.

Meet with your advisor

4.

Register (your date is in the Registration Time Table)


Who’s my advisor?

  • It’s on your Degree Works
  • Posted in CE department

Faculty advisers meet depending on their schedules. Check the CE webpage for an online appointment scheduler or Email your advisor for an appointment.  
Flow charts for each curriculum that outline a suggested time frame to take courses can be found on the CE website. Hard copies are available in the department.

  • CE AND CE/BREN ADVISERS & SENIORS
    Some professional elective courses may conflict with ECIV 489 or ECIV 499 (Senior Design Capstone Courses) the last two hours of the 3-hour course.  If this occurs, students may be able to schedule the course with the conflict.  Anders Larsson has indicated if the conflict is with one of the last two hours of the course (NOT the FIRST HOUR), he could work around the conflict.  Students wanting to register with this conflict should first notify Anders Larsson via email (andersl@ce.montana.edu) to make sure he is OK with the conflict, then register for all the courses except the senior design course.  Complete the following steps to register for Senior Design:
    • After you have registered for your courses online, you will then need to process a Drop/Add   sheet to add ECIV 489 or ECIV 499.
    • I can sign as the instructor and as the adviser on the Drop/Add sheet.  My office is 205 Cobleigh Hall.
    • After I have signed the Drop/Add sheet, you will then need to turn the Drop/Add sheet in to the Registrar’s Office in Montana Hall so that they will register you for ECIV 489 or ECIV 499 and override the conflict.

 CHANGES IN THE 2014-15 CATALOG FOR CE & CE/BREN MAJORS:

  • EGEN 116 (1 cr.) has been replaced with DDSN 101 (2 cr.)
  • ECIV 202 is now 1 cr. Rather than 2 cr.

Discrepancies in these credits (e.g. a student took the course as a 1 credit and the catalog the student is under required 2 credits) need to be addressed. 
If a student has not taken ECIV 202 (CE & CE/BREN) or ETCC 204 (CET) and is on the 2012-14 catalog, it would be best to have the student process a Change in Curriculum Form and move into the 2014-15 catalog.  If the student stays in the 2012-14 catalog and takes ECIV 202 (CE & CE/BREN) or ETCC 204 (CET) for 1 credit, the 2nd credit with need to be covered with some type of writing credit.  However, it may be that the student took EGEN 116 for 1 credit and moves to the 2014-15 catalog and it requires DDSN for 2 credits.  The 2nd credit of DDSN 101 needs to be covered with some type of technical credit (e.g. an extra professional elective credit). 
Degree Works (DW) will put EGEN 116 on the DW worksheet in place of DDSN 101 but knows that it is a credit short under the 2014-15 catalog and will automatically add an additional extra 1 credit to the total Professional Electives required.  (e.g. for CE & CE/BREN, the total will show 16 credits, for CET the total will show as 8 credits.). 
SENIORS:   The analytical professional elective is no longer required.  Another professional elective can be taken in place of the analytical professional elective.
If you are under an earlier catalog (e.g. 2010-12 or 2012-14) and want to make this substitution, you will be required to write a memo to Dr. Stephens, CE

MATH ISSUE:  Students are not allowed to go to the next Math course if a grade of  “C-“ or better is not receive in the prerequisite Math course.

PROFESSIONAL BLOCK COURSES ISSUE:

  If students have not successfully completed ALL the pre-professional block courses (particularly watch for EGEN 201 (EM 251) (CE’s & CE/BREN’s) and EGEN 203 (EM 205) (CET’s) with a grade of “C-“ or better, they are not allowed to take any professional block courses (courses with an * on the flow chart and they are shaded on the check sheet).
Internships:  Remember!  Students cannot complete an internship (CE 476 or CET 476) for credit the last semester they are in school.   Students are required to return to the classroom at least one semester following the internship.   CET Freshmen and Sophomores will be eligible to take a one-credit hour internship and are encouraged to do so.  CET Juniors and Seniors are only eligible for a two-credit hour internship. CET majors are allowed two internships at a total of 4 credit hours maximum toward their degree under professional electives.
CE majors are eligible for a 2-credit hour internship and must have completed 64 semester credit hours or more prior to the internship experience.   CE majors are limited to one internship toward their degree which would apply the 2 credits toward the required 12 credits of professional electives.  Internship applications are available in the black rack outside of the CE Office (205 Cobleigh).  To obtain an internship for credit students must complete an internship application.  If a student finds a job on their own that may qualify as an internship position, they should contact Penny Knoll (994-6139) to determine if it is appropriate.  PAPERWORK FOR STUDENT-SECURED INTERNSHIPS MUST BE COMPLETED BY MAY 1st. 

    • Available core courses:  A quick source of available 2.0 core courses for a given semester can be accessed via myinfo on the MSU homepage.  Click on myinfo, then go to Core Courses, choose the semester you want and then you have the option of looking at a particular list of core courses such as the inquiry arts courses available for that particular semester or the inquiry social science courses available that particular semester, etc.  

NEW MINOR OFFERED BY THE CIVIL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT:

LAND SURVEYING

This rigorous minor is designed to provide students with perspective and skills to pursue a successful career in surveying or a surveying related field.  The focus is on courses related to surveying such as photogrammetry, the global positioning system, U.S. Public Land Survey System, legal principles of surveying, and project design in surveying.  Enrollment in this minor is open to all engineering and non-engineering students. 
A minor must be pursued concurrently with a bachelor’s degree.  For more information on the Land Surveying minor, stop by the black rack outside the CE Office or visit the Civil Engineering Website at:  http://www.coe.montana.edu/ce/ 

Previous Course Name

MUS CCN Course Name

CE   201   Surveying

SRVY   230   Intro to Srvyg for Engineers

CET   202   Construction Surveying and Earthwork

SRVY   273   Route Surveying

CE   363   Advanced Surveying Computations

SRVY   355   Surveying Calculations (= 255)

CE   361   Legal Principles in Surveying

SRVY   361   Intro Legal Princ in Surveying

CE   362   Public Land Survey System

SRVY   362   Pub Land Srvy Syst (= 262)

CE   463   Photogrammetry

SRVY   375   Analyt Phot/ Rem Sens (= 275)

CE   464   Project Design in Surveying

SRVY   474   Project Design in Surveying

Important Tips

  • Students must complete all of the pre-professional block courses (watch for EGEN 201 and EGEN 203) with a grade of “C-“ or better before they can take any professional block courses.
  • Students are not allowed to proceed to the next Math course if a grade of C- or better is not received in the prerequisite Math course. The grade C- or better is required for any prerequisite course before continuing to the next course.

Internships

Remember!  Students cannot complete an internship ECIV 498 (CE 476) or ETCC 498 (CET 476) for credit the last semester they are in school.   Students are required to return to the classroom at least one semester following the internship.   CET Freshmen and Sophomores will be eligible to take a one-credit hour internship and are encouraged to do so.  CET Juniors and Seniors are only eligible for a two-credit hour internship. CET majors are allowed two internships at a total of 4 credit hours maximum toward their degree under professional electives.

CE majors are eligible for a 2-credit hour internship and must have completed 64 semester credit hours or more prior to the internship experience.   CE majors are limited to one internship toward their degree which would apply the 2 credits toward the required 12 credits
of professional electives.  Internship applications are available in the black rack outside of the CE Office (205 Cobleigh).  To obtain an internship for credit students must complete an internship application.  If a student finds a job on their own that may qualify as an internship position, they should contact Penny Knoll (994-6139) to determine if it is appropriate.  PAPERWORK FOR STUDENT-SECURED INTERNSHIPS MUST BE COMPLETED BY MAY 1st.