Montana State University

Advising Information

ADVISING FOR SPRING 2014 BEGINS Monday, October 21, 2013.

QUICK REFERENCE POINTS FOR STUDENTS

  • Degree Works is to students under Myinfo in your Secure Area under Student Services.
    • Your advisors name is shown on the Degree Works worksheet. 
    • Meeting with your advisor is REQUIRED; registration PINS will not be issued without departmental advising.
    • Degree Works will allow you to track your progress through the curriculum to completion of your degree requirements.

      Online registration* begins October 30, 2013  according to the Registration Time Table which can be accessed online under Myinfo on the MSU homepage.  *Registration dates are based on class standing and total number of earned (completed) credits as outlined in the Registration Time Table. 

    • 4 easy steps for advising
      1. Email your advisor for an appointment
      2. Complete the advising contract
      (available on line or at CE office)
      3. Meet with your advisor
      4. Register your classes on your registration date
    • Seniors (students who have successfully completed 90 or more (earned) credits by the beginning of Fall 2013 register the first three days of online registration. Note: current'y enrolled classes do not classify as earned at this time.  

      REMINDER: November 19th is the last day to withdraw from Fall '13 classes with a "W" grade.

      The Registration Time Table can be found in the Registration Handbook, or accessed under Myinfo.  

    • The Registration Handbook is a great resource providing information needed for registration as well as critical dates.

      Advisor/advisee lists will also be posted on the bulletin board located outside the CE Office, 205 Cobleigh, on bright yellow colored paper.  

      Faculty advisers meeting times differenlty depending on their schedules. Email your adviser or sign up on their door calendars for advising appointments.   Email addresses for advisers can be located on our website

      Flow charts for each curriculum that outline a suggested time frame to take courses can be found on the CE website.

      Hard copies are also available in the black rack outside of the CE Office, 205 Cobleigh.

      COMMON COURSE NUMBERING CHANGES

      The  surveying courses have undergone the Common Course Numbering (CCN) change and will show this change in the Schedule of Classes for Summer and Fall 2013.  Surveying courses will now show in the online catalog as follows:

       

  • Previous Course Name

    MUS CCN Course Name

    CE   201   Surveying

    SRVY   230   Intro to Srvyg for Engineers

    CET   202   Construction Surveying and Earthwork

    SRVY   273   Route Surveying

    CE   363   Advanced Surveying Computations

    SRVY   355   Surveying Calculations (= 255)

    CE   361   Legal Principles in Surveying

    SRVY   361   Intro Legal Princ in Surveying

    CE   362   Public Land Survey System

    SRVY   362   Pub Land Srvy Syst (= 262)

    CE   463   Photogrammetry

    SRVY   375   Analyt Phot/ Rem Sens (= 275)

    CE   464   Project Design in Surveying

    SRVY   474   Project Design in Surveying

     

    IMPORTANT COURSE INFORMATION TO NOTE & REMEMBER:

    EGEN 116 – ENGINEERING GRAPHICS LAB IS A PREREQUISITE TO CE 201-SURVEYING.  A grade of C- or better must be received in EGEN 116 before a student can register for CE 201.

    Courses scheduled on Tuesday/Thursday may have different start and stop times from how they were traditionally scheduled in the past.  The time between the 75-minute courses has been reduced to 10 minutes which will change the start and stop time of the course.   PLEASE PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE START AND STOP TIMES OF YOUR COURSES AS YOU SCHEDULE FOR FALL & SUMMER SEMESTER 2013.

    ETCC 412 – Structural Elements WILL BE OFFERED FALL SEMESTER 2013!

    CE AND CE/BREN ADVISERS & SENIORS
    Some professional elective courses may conflict with ECIV 489 or ECIV 499 (Senior Design Capstone Courses) the last two hours of the 3-hour course.  If this occurs, students may be able to schedule the course with the conflict.  Anders Larsson has indicated if the conflict is with one of the last two hours of the course (NOT the FIRST HOUR), he could work around the conflict.  Students wanting to register with this conflict should first notify Anders Larsson via email (andersl@ce.montana.edu) to make sure he is OK with the conflict, then register for all the courses except the senior design course.  Complete the following steps to register for Senior Design:

    1. After you have registered for your courses online, you will then need to process a Drop/Add   sheet to add ECIV 489 or ECIV 499.
    2. I can sign as the instructor and as the adviser on the Drop/Add sheet.  My office is 205 Cobleigh Hall.
    3. After I have signed the Drop/Add sheet, you will then need to turn the Drop/Add sheet in to the Registrar’s Office in Montana Hall so that they will register you for ECIV 489 or ECIV 499 and override the conflict.

     

    The course schedules (days & times of courses) can be found online at the following website:  www.montana.edu/
    Then select Myinfo and arrow down to select Schedule of Classes.  Be sure to select the correct term (Fall or Summer 2013).
    2012-14 CATALOG CHANGES

    The flow chart and the curriculum check sheet have been combined to be one sheet with the professional electives listed on the back.  New charts are available for each curriculum in the black rack outside the CE Office, 205 Cobleigh Hall.

    CE and CE/BREN Majors 2012-14 Catalog Changes
    ECIV 202 – Applied Analysis and Tech Communication is no longer in the pre-professional block of courses.

    EGEN 310R – Multi-disciplinary Design is highly recommended to be taken prior to ECIV 489R – CE Design I and is shown on the flow as a pre-requisite.
    Major scheduling conflicts may arise if not taken prior to taking ECIV 489R.

    CE/BREN Major 2012-14 Catalog Changes

    PHSX 222 – College Physics II is not required.
    BIOB 160 – Principles of Living Systems is required in place of the 2nd physics course.
    The list of Basic Science Elective courses has changed.  See the 2012-14 check sheet for details.
    EGEN 324 – Applied Thermodynamics required as the Engineering Science Elective.
    EGEN 435 – Fluid Dynamics is required as the Analytical Professional Elective.
    Professional Elective List has some changes.  See the 2012-14 check sheet for details.

    CET Major 2012-14 Catalog Changes

    Two credits of an Internship and/or Independent Study and/or Undergraduate Research Professional Electives will be required to complete the total professional elective credits.  See the back of the 2012-14 Check Sheet for details.

    MATH ISSUE:  Students are not allowed to go to the next Math course if a grade of
    “C-“ or better is not receive in the prerequisite Math course.  (e.g.:  students needs a grade of “C-“ or better in the pre-calculus course better taking the first calculus course.)  This would hold true for any pre-requisite course not just Math.

    PROFESSIONAL BLOCK COURSES ISSUE

    If students have not successfully completed ALL the pre-professional block courses (particularly watch for EGEN 201 (EM 251) (CE’s & CE/BREN’s) and EGEN 203 (EM 205) (CET’s) with a grade of “C-“ or better, they are not allowed to take any professional block courses (courses with an * on the flow chart and they are shaded on the check sheet).

    Internships:  Remember!  Students cannot complete an internship (CE 476 or CET 476) for credit the last semester they are in school.   Students are required to return to the classroom at least one semester following the internship.   CET Freshmen and Sophomores will be eligible to take a one-credit hour internship and are encouraged to do so.  CET Juniors and Seniors are only eligible for a two-credit hour internship. CET majors are allowed two internships at a total of 4 credit hours maximum toward their degree under professional electives.
    CE majors are eligible for a 2-credit hour internship and must have completed 64 semester credit hours or more prior to the internship experience.   CE majors are limited to one internship toward their degree which would apply the 2 credits toward the required 12 credits of professional electives.  Internship applications are available in the black rack outside of the CE Office (205 Cobleigh).  To obtain an internship for credit students must complete an internship application.  If a student finds a job on their own that may qualify as an internship position, they should contact Penny Knoll (994-6139) to determine if it is appropriate.  PAPERWORK FOR STUDENT-SECURED INTERNSHIPS MUST BE COMPLETED BY MAY 1st. 

    • Available core courses:  A quick source of available 2.0 core courses for a given semester can be accessed via myinfo on the MSU homepage.  Click on myinfo, then go to Core Courses, choose the semester you want and then you have the option of looking at a particular list of core courses such as the inquiry arts courses available for that particular semester or the inquiry social science courses available that particular semester, etc.  

     

    NEW MINOR OFFERED BY THE CIVIL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT:
    LAND SURVEYING
    This rigorous minor is designed to provide students with perspective and skills to pursue a successful career in surveying or a surveying related field.  The focus is on courses related to surveying such as photogrammetry, the global positioning system, U.S. Public Land Survey System, legal principles of surveying, and project design in surveying.  Enrollment in this minor is open to all engineering and non-engineering students. 

    A minor must be pursued concurrently with a bachelor’s degree.  For more information on the Land Surveying minor, stop by the black rack outside the CE Office or visit the Civil Engineering Website at:  http://www.coe.montana.edu/ce/ 


NEW SUBJECT ABBREVIATIONS FOR COMMON COURSE NUMBERING - Also check out Couse Number Equivalency Tool
(Courses taken by CE, CE/BREN & CET Majors)

New Subj. Abbr.   Old Subject Abbr.
ECIV Engineering - Civil CE
EENV Engineering - Environmental BREN & ENVE
EGEN Engineering - General, Multidisciplinary EM, ENGR, I&ME (350 & 325),  ME  (115/116 & 117/118), ME 324, CHBE 213
EMEC Engineering - Mechanical ME
EIND Engineering - Industrial I&ME
EMAT Engineering - Materials CHBE 213, Some ME & CHBE dealing with Materials
ECHM Engineering - Chemical CHBE
EBIO Engineering - Biological Bioengineering courses offered through CHBE
ETME Engineering - Technology, Mechanical MET
ETCC Engineering - Technology, Civil & Construction CET - MSU Northern has a Civil Technology Program
CE or CET Surveying Courses SRVY (See chart below)
ENSC Land Resources & Environmental Science (LRES) LRES 201 became ENSC 245
GPHY Some LRES courses became GPHY courses LRES 357, LRES 426, LRES 457
BFIN Business Finance Courses BUS 351 and FIN courses
ACT Activities General HHD, HDCF, HDCO, HDHL, HDPE
ACTV Activities Varsity HDPE
CRWR Creative Writing ENGL
FCS Family & Consumer Sciences HDCF
LING Linguistics ENGL

 

Previous Course Name

MUS CCN Course Name

CE   201   Surveying

SRVY   230   Intro to Srvyg for Engineers

CET   202   Construction Surveying and Earthwork

SRVY   273   Route Surveying

CE   363   Advanced Surveying Computations

SRVY   355   Surveying Calculations (= 255)

CE   361   Legal Principles in Surveying

SRVY   361   Intro Legal Princ in Surveying

CE   362   Public Land Survey System

SRVY   362   Pub Land Srvy Syst (= 262)

CE   463   Photogrammetry

SRVY   375   Analyt Phot/ Rem Sens (= 275)

CE   464   Project Design in Surveying

SRVY   474   Project Design in Surveying


Important Tips:

  • Students must complete all of the pre-professional block courses (watch for EGEN 201 and EGEN 203) with a grade of “C-“ or better before they can take any professional block courses.
  • Students are not allowed to proceed to the next Math course if a grade of C- or better is not received in the prerequisite Math course. The grade C- or better is required for any prerequisite course before continuing to the next course.

Internships

Remember!  Students cannot complete an internship ECIV 498 (CE 476) or ETCC 498 (CET 476) for credit the last semester they are in school.   Students are required to return to the classroom at least one semester following the internship.   CET Freshmen and Sophomores will be eligible to take a one-credit hour internship and are encouraged to do so.  CET Juniors and Seniors are only eligible for a two-credit hour internship. CET majors are allowed two internships at a total of 4 credit hours maximum toward their degree under professional electives.

CE majors are eligible for a 2-credit hour internship and must have completed 64 semester credit hours or more prior to the internship experience.   CE majors are limited to one internship toward their degree which would apply the 2 credits toward the required 12 credits
of professional electives.  Internship applications are available in the black rack outside of the CE Office (205 Cobleigh).  To obtain an internship for credit students must complete an internship application.  If a student finds a job on their own that may qualify as an internship position, they should contact Penny Knoll (994-6139) to determine if it is appropriate.  PAPERWORK FOR STUDENT-SECURED INTERNSHIPS MUST BE COMPLETED BY MAY 1st.